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Is Eight Enough? Sitting and former lawmakers debate term limits in the Legislature

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floridaphoenix.com – Mitch Perry – 2025-05-18 06:00:00


At a Tampa Tiger Bay Club event on May 16, 2025, former GOP Sen. Tom Lee, Democratic Sen. Darryl Rouson, Property Appraiser Bob Henriquez, and lobbyist Ron Pierce debated Florida’s legislative term limits. Instituted by voter-approved amendments over 30 years ago, these eight-year limits face criticism for empowering lobbyists and reducing legislators’ expertise, as staff and lobbyists gain influence. Legal disputes, like Debbie Mayfield’s Senate run, highlight ambiguities in term-limit laws. A stalled 2025 proposal aimed to clarify lifetime service limits. Participants acknowledged challenges in extending or repealing term limits, including public perception and political obstacles, amid ongoing debates about their effectiveness and impact.

by Mitch Perry, Florida Phoenix
May 18, 2025

Florida voters amended the state Constitution subjecting legislators to eight-year term limits more than three decades ago. But as this year’s legislative session continues with no end in sight, the issue of whether term-limits are working for all Floridians was the topic of debate at the Tampa Tiger Bay Club on Friday afternoon.

“I’ve seen a lot happen,” said Tampa Bay area Democratic Sen. Darryl Rouson, the longest-serving member of the Legislature, who was first elected to the House in 2008. “The downside is the experts become the staff, and to some extent, the lobbyists, and to a larger extent, not so much the legislator … so I think it has its drawbacks.”

“Term limits have completely empowered lobbyists,” agreed Ron Pierce, a lobbyist himself who worked for eight years as a legislative staffer and has headed RSA Consulting Group since 2009.

The term-limit law became an issue earlier this year when Brevard County House Republican Debbie Mayfield filed to run for the Senate seat in which she had served from 2016-2024.

After she was term-limited from running again last fall, she instead ran and won a seat in the Florida House. But after the newly elected senator in District 19, Randy Fine, quit to run for and win a seat in Congress, Mayfield filed to run for that Senate seat again in a special election.

The Florida Division of Elections ruled that she couldn’t run again for the seat because of the term limit law. She challenged that ruling, and the Florida Supreme Court ruled for her unanimously in February, stating that her gap in serving in the Senate from November until February allowed her to run again for the Senate seat in a special election (which is slated to take place on June 10).

Concurrent to that drama, Hernando County Republican Blaise Ingoglia filed a resolution during the session (SJR 536) that would have clarified that the law imposes a lifetime limit of 16 years in state legislative office — 8 years max in the House, 8 years max in the Senate — with a caveat for senators who serve reduced two-year terms due to redistricting.

The measure would have gone to the voters as a constitutional amendment in 2026, but stalled after being approved in one committee stop.

“Let’s stop the practice of people continually running for the same office and bouncing back and forth between chambers,” Ingoglia said on X. “Serving the people of Florida should be a privilege, and an honor, not a career.”

Voter-imposed

The “Eight is Enough” constitutional amendment in 1992, which passed with 77% of the vote, did not just include eight-year term limits for the state Legislature, but also for members of Congress, former Hillsborough County Republican state Sen. Tom Lee noted on Friday.

“That was the primary motivation behind it, and term limits for Congress was ultimately ruled to be unconstitutional,” he noted.

Former Tampa Democratic Sen. Janet Cruz, who served in the Legislature for more than a decade before losing a bid for re-election to the Senate in 2022, asked the panelists whether term limits even matter anymore because of “gerrymandered districts.”

Pierce insisted they absolutely do matter, citing the fact that when Rouson does leave the Senate next year because of term limits, his successor will not be nearly as experienced or have the same amount of influence.

“It has been around forever and isn’t going away,” Lee said regarding the issue of gerrymandering.

He added that the way that Republicans gained more seats in the Legislature starting in the late 1980s and early 1990s was because they built a coalition with Black and Hispanic Democrats to carve out seats “to ensure their election in minority-access districts in exchange for the rest of the map looking very Republican. And before you knew it, you had a Republican-dominated Legislature. That’s what happened.”

‘Who’s going to pay for that?’

Hillsborough County Property Appraiser Bob Henriquez, a Democrat, served in the Florida House from 1998 until 2006, when he was term-limited from his seat. He said he could make the argument that the state would be better off if term-limits could be extended to 12 or even 16 years, but it would be “controversial” for any lawmaker to push for that proposal.

“There have been efforts to try increase term limits to a different number. I don’t know what that sweet spot is — 12 years, 16 years. None of those have gone very far within the state Legislature,” Henriquez said.

Pierce said he could support getting rid of term limits outright, but added that there’s no way that could possibly happen, since it would require getting them repealed via a constitutional amendment.

“You’ve changed some things in Tallahassee this year, I think, that made it a little more difficult for citizen’s initiatives in the future, that’s number one,” he said, referring to the legislation signed by Gov. DeSantis that will make the process more difficult to get a measure on the ballot.

The second problem, he said, is that it would look “self-serving” for lawmakers to push the measure. But he added that the biggest hurdle would be finding anyone to educate the public about why term-limits should be repealed. “Who in the world is going to try to educate the public on why you’re trying to change term-limits?” he asked. “Who’s going to pay for that?”

The discussion took place just days after Gov. Ron DeSantis travelled to Ohio to give his support for a resolution in that state’s Legislature to put a constitutional amendment on the ballot calling for a constitutional convention to impose congressional term limits. The Florida Legislature passed a resolution last year calling for a U.S. Term Limits convention.

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Political Bias Rating: Centrist

The article provides a neutral presentation of opinions from various political figures regarding the issue of term limits in Florida. It reports on the debate, highlighting both support and opposition from Democratic and Republican viewpoints without pushing a specific agenda. The content includes perspectives from lobbyists, former lawmakers, and current politicians, offering a balanced look at how term limits have impacted governance and policy. No overt ideological leanings are evident, and the language used remains factual, with no clear attempts to influence public opinion one way or the other.

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After Trump and Congress spending cuts, public media stations wait on money for emergency alerts

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www.clickorlando.com – Gabriela Aoun Angueira, Associated Press – 2025-08-25 16:27:00

SUMMARY: The Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB), which managed $136 million in federal grants for the Next Generation Warning System (NGWS) to upgrade emergency alert systems in underserved areas, is shutting down on September 30 after losing congressional funding. This threatens dozens of projects aimed at improving public media stations’ ability to deliver crucial alerts during disasters, especially in rural areas with poor cell service. Stations like KSUT and KVPR have halted upgrades due to suspended funds and halted FEMA spending. FEMA has recently opened limited NGWS grants directly to states but hasn’t clarified distribution of existing funds, leaving emergency alert resilience at risk amid growing climate hazards.

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“By the Grace of God, I’m still here:” Seminole man survives lightning strike outside pizza shop

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SUMMARY: Travis Kurtz, a Seminole man and property manager, survived a lightning strike outside Rizzo’s pizzeria during a typical rainy day. The lightning hit unexpectedly, leaving him convulsing and in severe pain with a heart rate of 1,265 beats per minute. Pizza shop owner Mark Rizzo quickly responded, calling 911 and helping Kurtz, who spent several days hospitalized. Though Kurtz faces memory loss and motor skill challenges, he is grateful to be alive, supported by his girlfriend and community. A fundraiser and GoFundMe have been organized to assist with his recovery, urging Floridians to avoid going out in the rain during storms.

Florida man survives lightning strike outside Seminole pizza shop; credits stranger and girlfriend for saving his life. Now, he’s sharing his story — and warning others.

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Abrego Garcia arrested by ICE as judge orders postponement of deportation to Uganda

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floridaphoenix.com – Ariana Figueroa, William J. Ford – 2025-08-25 10:29:00


Kilmar Abrego Garcia was arrested at an ICE office in Baltimore on August 25, 2025, amid protests and a prayer vigil supporting him. Wrongfully deported to El Salvador in March, where he suffered abuse, Abrego Garcia was returned to the U.S. in June to face human smuggling charges. The Trump administration seeks to deport him to Uganda unless he pleads guilty, offering Costa Rica refugee status as an alternative. His lawyers filed a habeas corpus petition to block removal. Advocates and politicians condemn the administration’s coercive tactics and wrongful deportation, highlighting ongoing legal battles and calls for justice and due process.

by Ariana Figueroa and William J. Ford, Florida Phoenix
August 25, 2025

BALTIMORE — Hundreds of protesters gathered at the Immigration and Customs Enforcement field office in Baltimore early Monday for a prayer vigil for the wrongly deported Kilmar Abrego Garcia, whom the Trump administration aims to re-deport to Uganda unless he pleads guilty to Justice Department charges.

As Abrego Garcia arrived for his Monday ICE check-in at the office, he was arrested and detained, one of his immigration lawyers, Simon Y. Sandoval-Moshenberg, told the crowd. 

The crowd shouted “Shame!”

Sandoval-Moshenberg added that the ICE officials  at the time would not answer questions about where Abrego Garcia would be detained. 

“The only reason that they’ve chosen to take him into detention is to punish him,” Sandoval-Moshenberg said outside the office. 

Television cameras and photographers follow Kilmar Abrego Garcia as his family, friends and other supporters walk him up the steps to the George H. Fallon Federal Building, where the ICE detention facility is located in Baltimore, on Aug. 25, 2025.  (Photo by William J. Ford/Maryland Matters)  

U.S. Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem said in a statement to States Newsroom that “ICE law enforcement arrested Kilmar Abrego Garcia and are processing him for deportation.”

DHS said that ICE has placed Abrego Garcia in removal proceedings to Uganda, which has agreed to accept deportees from the United States.

Abrego Garcia’s attorneys quickly filed a habeas corpus petition suit in a Maryland district court, where Judge Paula Xinis, who also ordered the Trump administration to return Abrego Garica after his wrongful deportation, has barred immigration officials from removing Abrego Garcia from the United States until 4 p.m. Eastern Wednesday. A habeas corpus petition allows immigrants to challenge their detention.

In a Monday afternoon emergency hearing with Xinis, the attorneys for Abrego Garcia, including Sandoval-Moshenberg, said he was being held in Virginia.

Sandoval-Moshenberg asked Xinis if she could order that Abrego Garcia not be moved from Virginia because he was concerned that Abrego Garcia could be moved. Xinis agreed, saying the order would give Abrego Garcia access to his legal counsel in his criminal case and habeas one.

Sandoval-Moshenberg said Abrego Garcia would accept refugee status that has been offered by Costa Rica’s government, but would not plead guilty to the charges. 

‘I am free and have been reunited with my family’

As Abrego Garcia walked into his ICE check-in with his wife, Jennifer Vasquez Sura, he was greeted by cheers from hundreds of protesters. 

In Spanish, Abrego Garcia thanked those who attended.

“I always want you to remember that today, I can say with pride, that I am free and have been reunited with my family,” he said. 

Immigrant rights activists from the advocacy group CASA shielded the family and the attorneys as they entered the field office. 

Protesters hold up a sign of support for Kilmar Abrego Garcia outside the ICE office in Baltimore where he was arrested on Monday, Aug. 25, 2025. (Photo by William J. Ford/Maryland Matters)

Over the weekend, attorneys for Abrego Garcia’s criminal case in Nashville said in court filings that the Trump administration is trying to force the Maryland man to plead guilty to human smuggling charges by promising to remove him to Costa Rica if he does so, and threatening to deport him to Uganda if he refuses. 

Abrego Garcia pleaded not guilty and was released Friday to await trial in January on charges he took part in a long-running conspiracy to smuggle immigrants without legal status across the United States. 

His attorneys received a letter from ICE that informed them of his pending deportation to Uganda and instructed him to report to the ICE facility in Baltimore for a check-in. 

Sandoval-Moshenberg said that Monday’s check-in with ICE was supposed to be an interview but “clearly that was false.”

Sandoval-Moshenberg said the new lawsuit was filed early Monday in the District Court for the District of Maryland challenging Abrego Garcia’s potential removal to the East African country, or any third country, while his immigration case is pending. 

“The fact that they’re holding Costa Rica as a carrot and using Uganda as a stick to try to coerce him to plead guilty to a crime is such clear evidence that they’re weaponizing the immigration system in a matter that is completely unconstitutional,” Sandoval-Moshenberg said. 

Trump mass deportations in spotlight

The Supreme Court in April ordered the Trump administration to facilitate the return of Abrego Garcia, who was unlawfully deported to a notorious prison in El Salvador, his home country.  An immigration judge had granted him removal protections in 2019 because it was likely he would face violence if returned. 

The case has put the Trump administration’s aggressive deportation tactics in the national spotlight as well as the White House’s clash with the judicial branch as the president aims to carry out his plans of mass deportation. 

On Friday, Abrego Garcia’s attorneys moved to dismiss the case against him because of the coordination from Homeland Security and the Justice Department to force a guilty plea from him. 

“There can be only one interpretation of these events,” the lawyers wrote. “The (Department of Justice, Department of Homeland Security) and ICE are using their collective powers to force Mr. Abrego (Garcia) to choose between a guilty plea followed by relative safety, or rendition to Uganda, where his safety and liberty would be under threat.”

Another judge in Maryland had earlier ruled that ICE must give Abrego Garcia 72 hours of notice before removing him to a third country.  

Maryland Democratic Sen. Chris Van Hollen, who traveled to El Salvador to meet with Abrego Garcia while he was detained there, criticized the move by the Trump administration to re-deport him to Uganda. 

“The federal courts and public outcry forced the Administration to bring Ábrego García back to Maryland, but Trump’s cronies continue to lie about the facts in his case and they are engaged in a malicious abuse of power as they threaten to deport him to Uganda – to block his chance to defend himself against the new charges they brought,” he said in a Sunday statement. “As I told Kilmar and his wife Jennifer, we will stay in this fight for justice and due process because if his rights are denied, the rights of everyone else are put at risk.”

Rep. Glenn Ivey, D-Md.,  speaks during a rally on Aug. 25, 2025, in support of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, who is standing behind Ivey outside of the George H. Fallon Federal Building, where the ICE detention facility is located in Baltimore (Photo by William J. Ford/Maryland Matters)

Maryland Democratic Rep. Glenn Ivey, who represents the district where Abrego Garcia’s family lives, attended Monday’s rally. He slammed the Trump administration for moving to again deport Abrego Garcia.

“This started with a mistake,” he said. “They knew it was illegal. Instead of acknowledging it and bringing him back, they said, ‘We can’t bring him back.’ They lied.”

The Trump administration repeatedly stated in court that because Abrego Garica was in El Salvador, he was no longer in U.S. custody and could not be brought back despite court orders.

Wrongly deported in March

Abrego Garcia was wrongly deported in March and returned to the U.S. in June to face the charges filed by the Justice Department in May.

While Abrego Garica was at the notorious prison in El Salvador known as El Centro de Confinamiento del Terrorismo, or CECOT, he detailed how he was beaten and psychologically tortured.

Because of his 2019 deportation protections, the Trump administration either had to challenge the withholding of removal or deport Abrego Garcia to a third country that would accept him. 

His attorneys in the Tennessee case attached the agreement with the government of Costa Rica to accept Abrego Garcia’s removal in Saturday court filings. 

“The Government of Costa Rica intends to provide refugee status or residency to Mr. Abrego Garcia upon his transfer to Costa Rica,” according to the agreement. “The Government of Costa Rica assures the Government of the United States of America that, consistent with that lawful immigration status and Costa Rican law, it does not intend to detain Mr. Abrego Garcia upon his arrival in Costa Rica.”

In that filing, the Trump administration late Thursday agreed to remove Abrego Garcia to Costa Rica if he remained in custody until Monday, pleaded guilty to the DOJ charges and served the sentence imposed.

Selah Torralba, an advocacy manager for the Tennessee Immigrant and Refugee Rights Coalition, said at Monday’s rally outside the ICE facility that she pushed for Abrego Garcia’s release while he was detained in Tennessee.

“After spending close to three months brutalized in a place that he should never have been sent to begin with, and another three months imprisoned in a state that is not his own, Kilmar was joyfully reunited with his family and children this weekend,” she said. “But it is impossible to celebrate that joy without acknowledging the cruel reality that our communities have known for far too long.”

Last updated 2:39 p.m., Aug. 25, 2025

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Note: The following A.I. based commentary is not part of the original article, reproduced above, but is offered in the hopes that it will promote greater media literacy and critical thinking, by making any potential bias more visible to the reader –Staff Editor.

Political Bias Rating: Left-Leaning

This content presents a narrative critical of the Trump administration’s immigration enforcement and deportation policies, highlighting perceived injustices and abuses in the case of Kilmar Abrego Garcia. The focus on the harm caused by federal immigration authorities, the inclusion of statements from immigrant rights advocates and Democratic politicians, and the framing of government actions as punitive and coercive align with a left-leaning viewpoint that emphasizes immigrant protections and government accountability. The article frames the administration’s actions in a negative light, suggesting systemic issues and weaponization of immigration law, which reflects concerns commonly voiced by progressive and left-leaning perspectives.

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